Cindy . It seems that every source I looked at says something different, though generally within those three years. The remains of an unidentified victim of an Alaskan serial killer who hunted down his victims as if they were game have been exhumed in a bid to establish who she was. FLOTHE: Where did you go when you did it in the car? And he had a green shirt or else it was plaid. Too often, Robert Hansen was believed instead of the women, many of them dancers or prostitutes, who testified against him. CINDY: Same. Hes amazing. Join Facebook to connect with Cindy Paulson and others you may know. Interesting stuff. This is Installment Three of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. Cindy coughs.) And that, um, I was lucky because usually the other ones stayed a week. Sure, no problem, Im like, fine, no problem. Hey, no problem, you know. I always wanted to do dramas. Hansen later became one of the first prisoners at the newly opened Spring Creek Correctional Center, where he had remained until this year. FLOTHE: Describe this man to me. CINDY: On the corner of Fourth and Denali. FLOTHE: Or did he give you any money? The website seems to belong to the author of the book which inspired the aforementioned Hollywood movie, his name is Leland E. Hale. We deserve to identify ourselves and our many pieces, both personally and professionally. If she saw blood, well, that would also have made sense as her husband was a hunter. ): And we pulled over to the side, by the side of the house, and I proceeded to give him a blowjob. CINDY: OK. They searched his plane, home and car and found he had some items, including jewelry, that had belonged to the women. What made you want to do it? Now, from reading your report apparently you had a pretty good description of the house that you gave the police. The woman tried to escape and he pulled out a gun, he said. Glenn Flothe, AST. CINDY: Yeah. Brown and Caldwell's former Chief Technical Officer Cindy Paulson understands that for Balance and Belonging to thrive, employees need to be who they truly are. CINDY: I believe it was right there right across from the Sheraton on Fifth and Denali. I can tell you (inaudible) I can describe the plane to you. John Paulson. In this installment, Cindy talks about and proves her observational powers, in this case related to Robert Hansen's house on Old Harbor Road. It was super fun and really quick. And do what he pleased with her. Hansen said that victim is the woman known to police as Eklutna Annie, a roughly 20-year-old brunette whose body was discovered in 1980 by electric workers repairing a power line outside Eagle River. He had rolled the window down and I opened the door and I sat down and I talked to him. Okay, she was standing there and I was driving down the street and she waved a little bit and so forth and I pulled up there and talked with her. FRANK ROTHSCHILD (FR): Alright. Its very specific and unique, and its that type of film. As soon as he was of age Robert joined the Army reserves and moved to another town where he found himself a wife, but he was still treated badly. To the left is the basement. I wanted everyone to see that were all the same. CINDY: And then up here to where I was starting to get it off. How do you feel about the final film now that youve seen it? For only $3 you can help this site stay up and running! It shows just how desolate the area is, these poor women really didnt have a snowballs chance. She had been engaging in sex work. Glenn Flothe, AST. Kids in England had to wear masks at school because No10 'didn't want an argument' with Nicola Sturgeon - Health ministers knew there was no evidence to justify making kids abide by rule of 6 - but No10 'didn't Matt Hancock branded teaching unions 'absolute a**es' in leaked WhatsApp messages with then-education Holiday home owners in Scotland face new SNP tax hike under plans from front-runner to be new First Scotland should just self-identify as an independent country, one SNP member proposed. You know, like mine is. Your email address will not be published. How was the directing process with Scott Walker? He joined the ADN in 2004. Way down on the floor. CINDY: I could say the time but it may not be the correct one. CINDY: Uh huh. In 2007 his multi-billion payoff shorting the overheated U.S. housing market made him a global industry superstar. I understand youre in early talks for The Kitchen Sink which has been described as a monster genre mash-up. CINDY: No. FLOTHE: Thank you. Often the family of these killers catch a ton of hell from the public, how could they possibly share their lives with a monster and not know it? Hansen grew up in Iowa, the son of immigrant bakers. But he had brown socks on. CINDY: It was a really dark color. Being authentic creates the space for diversity of thought and means drawing on experiences that fall outside the box. And I said, Fine, no problem.. I just want to do everything. Youve taken on some very interesting, challenging roles lately in different genres like this film and also Gimme Shelter. On his terms. Hansen couldn't or wouldn't help identify her. And, uh, I called back to her the next the next day or some oth or day or two afterwards. FLOTHE: Did he point the gun at you at any time? By the time hed caught up, Cindy had flagged down a passing motorist; this good samaritan drove the teen to a nearby hotel room, and he promptly notified the Alaskan police. Investigators are certain that number 17 is small it is thought that Roberts body count is really in the thirties. FLOTHE: Tapes turned back on. Here for the first time are the tape recordings that document that rendezvous. All throughout the mid seventies and even into the eighties Robert carried on with his hobby of abducting and murdering women, and there's no telling how much longer he would've lasted had he not decided to attack a 17 year old girl by the name of Cindy Paulson in June of '83. Were the lights on or off? There was this aha moment that there are a lot of people like me within the company. Why dont we start then with what will be freshest in mind, which is the the cases that are pending now and from what happened in June of last year. In the film inspired by true events, Hudgens character forms an unlikely partnership with Alaska State Trooper, Sgt. CINDY: The automatic opener. FLOTHE: What did the gun look like? The stuffed heads of the animals which hed killed lined his walls, and damming items such as unique jewelry pieces which could easily be linked back to many of the missing women were found within the home as well. With a cut in the back. CINDY: I dont think so. FLOTHE: When did he tell you this? Cindy later recounted that Robert had offered her $200 bucks for oral sex, and that hed pulled a gun on her just as soon as she stepped inside his vehicle; the teen was driven back to Roberts home where she was chained to a beam by her throat, raped, and tortured for several hours. And um, after he had got the condom on, I kept doing it, and then he kept feeling around my neck, like he was just trippin, playing around with my neck and my necklaces. He was the lead reporter on the Pulitzer Prize-winning "Lawless" project and is part of an ongoing collaboration between the ADN and ProPublica's Local Reporting Network. Were all connected. FLOTHE: What was he driving then, Sunday night? Being in an office meant that team building happened naturally, and to re-create that connection virtually, takes a lot of To be authentic, inclusion needs action behind it. I just had no idea what it would be like for me to be fully authentic at work.. I guess Im superstitious, so I dont like talking about things until they happen, but there are a few things in the works. Its by far the craziest transformation Ive had yet. This is Installment Four of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. Was it important for you to give the victims a voice in this film? FLOTHE: And about what time was that? As part of his plea deal, Hansen agreed to help authorities find the graves of the murdered women. CINDY: OK. A turning point came in 1983, when a teenage prostitute named Cindy Paulson ran into a Fifth Avenue motel in handcuffs, saying that Hansen had imprisoned her at his home, raped her and put her on his plane for a one-way ride. Stephen Hoage, operations administrator for the state medical examiner's office said: 'We know what happened to her. In the 1960s he moved to Anchorage and opened a bakery of his own in a strip mall at Ninth Avenue and Ingra Street. He was messin with my neck and I was kinda trippin. He was right to worry, state officials later said. Hes got like frog warts on his face. FLOTHE: Where did he park the car? FLOTHE: Youre positive. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. It is so nice when you dont have to build a character from the ground up by yourself. So he shows up Sunday night, then. In this installment, Cindy provides additional information about how she met and ended up with Robert Hansen. It must also be mentioned that she and the children were constantly insulted and belittled by Robert, and it wouldnt be surprising to learn that he was physically abusive; there may have been some trauma bonding there as well. CINDY: The Buick Century. FLOTHE: Like a station wagon? All Rights Reserved., https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/2017/09/08/robert-hansen-graves-along-knik/, Killers found not guilty by reason of insanity. Do you remember what hes driving on Friday? CINDY: Up to the house. Its going to have to be a little bit vague on that. Now her body has been exhumed from from the cemetery at Anchorage Memorial Park with the hope that DNA testing and facial reconstruction will lead to her being identified. Her circumstances were different and not ideal for most, but that was just her current state. *Though its not super graphic or bloody, this article does contain a couple of images of the killer posing with hunted game animals. Cause this motherfucker wasnt getting away with it. FLOTHE: OK. And when he pulled up, did you just go get in the car, or did you talk to him And he said well he was gonna start getting his moneys worth. (Cindy Paulson), Cindy Paulson I just wanted a chance to work with Robert Rodriguez. And she, uh, cant remember if she wasnt there or she couldnt couldt meet me. Were able to have honest and trusting conversations about how to make BC, and hopefully the industry, a place We must take small steps to make a positive change in the workplace and industry and, right now, its We work to create a more inclusive space because everyone deserves to live and embrace their truths. After he was released from prison, Robert decided that he needed to get as far away from Iowa as possible, so he moved near Anchorage, Alaska. Its nice because I can watch it from an outsiders perspective and be sucked into it, which is cool. In this installment, Cindy talks about being handcuffed by Robert Hansen at gunpoint and identifies his handgun. BC is creating the space for more diverse thoughts and experiences and bringing better solutions to our clients as a result, she adds. "I can still see him when he got livid like that," he said. I think before you mentioned something being on the roof of the house. CINDY: Some times they were. CINDY (cont. And I was supposed to meet him but I didnt show up cause I overslept. Facebook gives people the power to. Handle was brown. CINDY: Yep. Hansen later told investigators that his first kill involved a woman he assumed to be a topless dancer or prostitute. I mean But when Cindy reached out to the police, they believed Hansen's story, which was again backed up by his powerful friends. Let's get it straight: "My wife befriended Cindy for months at all hours of the night and morning without ever meeting her until two days before she was to testify against Hansen. What did you learn about yourself in the process of making this film? Hansen was officially charged with the abduction and rape of Cindy Paulson and the murders of Joanna Messina, Sherry Morrow, Paula Goulding, and the unidentified body known as "Eklutna Annie." On February 28, 1984, Robert Hansen was sentenced to 461 years plus life in prison with no parole. (inaudible). You can listen to the podcast of this interview here. FLOTHE: What did he ask you? When he reached the Glenn Highway, he kept driving. Darla had truly believed that if she stuck it out, she could eventually talk Robert into going to church with her more often she thought that she could save the soul of the man shed vowed before God to love, and her marriage would be fixed as well. CINDY: Regular Just working boots. Still, knowing something and proving it are two different things, and Glenn was going to need a good deal of help solving this case. It was just shocking and disturbing. Only 12 bodies of the 17 women Hansen confessed to killing have been found. FLOTHE: Which photograph is that? Opening August 23rd, the film also features Dean Norris, Radha Mitchell and Curtis 50 Cent Jackson. As an act of retribution against the people who he felt had tortured him, Robert talked a young bakery employee into helping him blow up a local school bus barn. And he had called me and I slept through it. Like a station wagon. Dont worry. Published: 09:00 GMT, 4 September 2014 | Updated: 01:18 GMT, 4 December 2016, Alaskan serial killer Robert Hansen, who killed 17 women in the early 1970s and 80s. Jack Halcombe (Nicolas Cage), who convinces her to help him bring Hansen to justice. FLOTHE: Can you describe it a little bit more to me? Hansens Weapon Cache (courtesy Alaska State Troopers; found in the attic of Hansens residence; note the handgun at center left), Your email address will not be published. 10,285 views Aug 26, 2013 In an up close interview, former Disney sweetheart Vanessa Hudgens shares her admiration towards serial killer Robert Hansen's surviving victim Cindy Paulson .more. CINDY: Nope. CINDY: It was a black CINDY: Nope. FLOTHE: Did you have conversation, then, with him on Friday? I was kinda trippin I really thought (inaudible) FLOTHE: He had an automatic garage door opener? The security guard had came up I dont know if I was in the back laying down when he [the security guard] did. I looked in the back, OK, there was like a you know how seats in front have covers theyre metal? Vanessa Hudgens Talks THE FROZEN GROUND, Meeting the Real Cindy Paulson, MACHETE KILLS, GIMME SHELTER, and THE KITCHEN SINK. Paulson told Flothe in her interview, which is published in full on Leland Hale's website, the man who wrote Butcher, Baker: The True Account of an Alaskan Serial Killer: CINDY: He just said,. FLOTHE: Do you remember how he was dressed on Sunday? CINDY: Yeah. (laughs) Its a quick little cameo. Scott did an amazing job at keeping a very steady uproar and pace. We are all the same. Apparently youre bothered by this? You know, I was supposed to meet him. It was smooth like Figure 20s handle, but the gun was shaped like Figure 21. You rarely see mention of them, other than the fact that they existed, and I read through multiple articles before I even spotted Mrs. Hansens first name. Time is 8:15. Like many killers he targeted transient women, they were often exotic dancers and sex workers; after hed charmed the woman of his choice and done his best to convince her of his harmlessness, Robert would talk her into leaving with him. FLOTHE: And when did you hear from him again? Im sorry that these photos needed to be included, but we really cant discuss this particular serial killer without speaking of hunting. But that's not the only discrepancy, another Hansen victim, DeLynn Frey, reportedly also was found near the same lake on the same day, but Mr Hoage said Frey was found near another lake in 1985. FLOTHE: And contact Cindy at this phone number and this room number Now her body has been exhumed from from the cemetery at Anchorage Memorial Park with the hope that DNA testing and facial reconstruction will lead to her being identified. (pause) "Good riddance to him.". She'd noticed women's clothes, toys, and dogs wandering around, according to. That was everywhere in the whole In the basement there was fish, there was wolf skin, there was stuffed animals everywhere. Healthy mother-of-two, 32, collapsed and died from brain bleed while she led fitness bounce class, Taking Vitamin D each day could cut your chances of getting dementia, study claims. FLOTHE: Hmm. He doesnt mess around. CINDY: Yeah, but then again one seat looks the same. FLOTHE: An older car. FLOTHE: Wasnt painted. I said, no, we can go to my place. He said, no, he didnt want to. Like a Datsun Toyota cream-colored car. There are 30+ professionals named "Cindy Paulson", who use LinkedIn to exchange information, ideas, and opportunities. FLOTHE: What do you mean by a cut in the back? And it was just the usual chitchat, you know, asking, you know, got in the car and asked, how you doing and so forth and whether I was looking for a good time and so forth. Process Intensification with BC:Ntensify, Technology and Innovation Leadership Team, Brown and Caldwell looks to the future of 75 years and counting, Black History Month and Engineers Week: Why I became an engineer. FLOTHE: Would you draw me a diagram of the house and Ill turn the tape off just for a minute while youre doing that. First, we hear about that meet up from Robert Hansens confession. CINDY: Uh huh. He remains active in the markets. CINDY: Uh huh. "We nabbed him before he could do any damage to anyone.". I think it will be a fun change of pace for me. He had been transferred to the hospital on Wednesday. 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