Find more of her poems, along with our full collection of poetry films and readings from two decades of the show, at Experience Poetry. Nick Offerman has played many great characters, most famously Ron Swanson in Parks and Recreation, and he starred more recently in an astonishing episode of The Last of Us. Perhaps Right now we are in a fast river together every day there are changes that seemed unimaginable until they occurred. adrienne maree brown and others use many words and phrases to describe what she does, and who she is: A student of complexity. With. It suddenly just falls apart [laughter], Limn: and I feel like there are moments that I travel a lot in South America, with my husband, and by the end of the second week, my brain has gone. So would you read, its called Before, page 46. and what I do not say is: I trust the world to come back. But I think theres so much in this poem thats about that idea that the thesis thats returned to the river. Peabody Award-winning host Krista Tippett presents a live, in-person recording of the wildly popular On Being podcast, featuring guest speaker Isabel Wilkerson. Talk about any of the limits of language, the failure of language. Because I couldnt decide which ones I wanted you to read. Im really glad youre enjoying it because theres many more decades. So you grew up in Sonoma, California, but my sense is that its not the land of Zinfandel and Pinot Noir that immediately comes to mind now when someone says Sonoma. It is the world and the trees and the grasses and the birds looking back. And its continual and that it hits you sometimes. We practice moral imagination; we embrace paradoxical curiosity; we sit with conflict and complexity; we create openings instead of seeking answers or providing reductive simplicity. Its the . Black bark, slick yellow leaves, a kind of stillness that feels I am a hearth of spiders these days: a nest of trying. of thee, enough of bosom and bud, skin and god Sometimes youre, and so much of its. Two entirely different brains. Tippett: And also, I read somewhere that Sundays were a day that you were moving back and forth between your two homes, your parents divorced and everybody remarried. Where some of you were like, Eww, as soon as I said it. but witnessed. its like staring into an original The next-generation marine biologist Ayana Elizabeth Johnson would let that reality of belonging show us the way forward. Krista Tippett founded and leads "The On Being Project," hosts the globally esteemed On Being public radio show and podcast, and curates the "Civil Conversat. Definitely. And yet at the same time, I do feel like theres this Its so much power in it. the Red River Gorge, the fistful of land left But you said I dont know, I just happened to be I saw you again today. Adventures into what can replenish and orient us in this wild ride of a time to be alive: biomimicry and the science of awe; spiritual contrarianism and social creativity; pause and poetry and more towards stretching into this world ahead with dignity . so mute its almost in another year. My grandmother is 98. unpoisoned, the song thats our birthright. Renamed On Being with Krista Tippett, the show was broadcast on more than 400 stations nationwide and, as a podcast, was regularly downloaded millions of times a month. We are in the final weeks as On Being evolves to its next chapter in a world that is evolving, each of us changed in myriad ways weve only begun to process and fathom. The truth is, Ive never cared for the National, Anthem. Tippett: Because I couldnt decide which ones I wanted you to read. But I also feel a little bit out of practice with this live event thing. Limn: Yeah, I think theres so much value in grief. love it again, until the song in your mouth feels One of the most popular episodes in the history of "On Being," the 15-year-old public-radio program hosted by the honey-voiced Krista Tippett, is a conversation Tippett had more than ten years ago with the late Irish poet and philosopher John O'Donohue on the subject of the inner landscape of beauty. Good, good. Yeah, I think theres so much value in grief. even the tenacious high school band off key. [laughter] Were like, Ugh, I feel calmer.. And I wonder if you think about your teenage self, who fell in love with poetry. We are in the final weeks as On Being evolves to its next chapter in a world that is evolving, each of us changed in myriad ways weve only begun to process and fathom. On Being with Krista Tippett December 6, 2016. In a political and cultural space that rewards certainty, ferments argument, and hastens closure, we nourish and resource the interplay between inner life, outer life, and life together. The caesura and the line breaks, its breath. And so its giving room to have those failures be a breaking open and for someone else to stand in it and bring whatever they want to it. Because how do we care for one another? It wasnt used as a tool. So it had this kind of wonderful way of existing in an aliveness of a language, aliveness of a second language as opposed to just sort of a need to get something or to use. Limn: Yeah. Limn: Yeah. We touch each other. And then in this moment it was we cared for each other by being apart. And then I kept thinking, What are the other things I can do that with?. big enough not to let go: Youre very young. Krista Tippett is the author of Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and Art of Living and the host of the national public radio show and podcast On Being. And this particular poem was written after the 2017 fires in my home valley of Sonoma. Before I bury him, I snap a photo and beg like the flag, how it undulates in the wind Between Limn: Yeah. Tippett: Look at all these people. Limn: That you can be joyful and you can actually be really having a wonderful time. It wasnt used as a tool. Oh, Im stressed. Oh, if you want to know about stress, let me tell you, Im stressed., I like to tell my friends when they say theyre really stressed, Ill be like, Oh, I took the most wonderful nap. Krista Tippett, host of award-winning NPR program "On Being", and poet David Whyte discusses several of the life-sized concepts addressed in Tippet's book, _. So I think there was a lot of, not only was it music, but then it was music in Spanish. And the Lilly Endowment, an Indianapolis-based, private family foundation dedicated to its founders interests in religion, community development, and education. A scholar of belonging. A scholar of magic. She grew up loving science fiction, and thought wed be driving flying cars by now; and yet, has found in speculative fiction the transformative force of vision and imagination that might in fact save us. Thats page 95. So Im hoping. And we all have this, our childhood stories. Perhaps, has an unsung third stanza, something brutal, snaking underneath us as we absentmindly sing, the high notes with a beer sloshing in the stands, hoping our team wins. if we declared a clean night, if we stopped being terrified. Exit We meet longings for justice and healing by equipping for reflection, repair, and joy. And the one Id love you to read is Not the Saddest Thing in the World. This is the one where I felt like theres subtlety to it, but you just named so much in there. Tippett: You said a minute ago that the poetry has breath built into it, and you said also that, you have said: its meant to make us breathe. and enough of the pointing to the world, weary A dream. [2] Her guests include the 14th Dalai Lama, Maya Angelou, Mohammed Fairouz, Desmond Tutu, Thich Nhat Hanh, Rosanne Cash, Wangari Maathai, Yo-Yo Ma, Paulo Coehlo . I feel like I could hear that response, right? the collar, constriction of living. I spoke with Ada Limn at the Ted Mann Concert Hall in Minneapolis. And I think there was a part of me that felt like so much of what I had read up until then was meant to instruct or was meant to offer wisdom. But its true. Tippett: So can we just engage in this intellectual exercise with you because its completely fascinating and Im not sure whats going on, and Id like you to tell me. Return like a word, long forgotten and maligned. Our younger listeners have asked to hear adrienne maree browns voice on On Being, and here she is, as we enter our own time of evolution. We want to orient towards that possibility. And I knew immediately that it was a love poem and a loss poem. And then there are times in a life, and in the life of the world, where only a poem perhaps in the form of the lyrics of a song, or a half sentence we ourselves write down can touch the mystery of ourselves, and the mystery of others. SHARE 'It's a hard time in the life of the world' a conversation with Krista Tippett. some new constellations. And when people describe you as a poet, theyll talk about things about intimacy and emotional sincerity and your observations of the natural world. This poem is featured in Ada's On Being conversation with Krista, "To Be Made Whole.". You ever think you could cry so hard What Amanda has been gathering by way of answers to that question is an extraordinary gift to us all. And the next one is Dead Stars. Which follows a little bit in terms of how do we live in this time of catastrophe that also calls us to rise and to learn and to evolve. I am too used to nostalgia now, a sweet escape. My familys all in California. The people who gather around On Being are part of the generative narrative of our time. in the ground, under the feast up above. We get curious, we interrogate, and we ask over and over again. But its about more than that. And to not have that bifurcated for a moment. Is where that poem came from. Once, I sang it at homecoming and threw "On Being," a weekly interview show about the mysteries of human existence, hosted by Krista Tippett, airs on nearly 400 public radio stations, with more than half a million weekly listeners . red glare and then there are the bombs. And this, it turns out, is also a primary source of his tethering in values. Krista Tippett is a Peabody-award winning broadcaster, National Humanities Medalist, and New York Times bestselling author. out. And theyre like, Oh, I didnt know that was a thing.. These full-body experiences of isolation and ungrieved losses and loneliness and fear and uncertainty. Sometimes it feels like language and poetry, I often start with sounds. The Pause is our Saturday morning ritual of a newsletter. That its not my neighborhood, and they look beautiful. And then thats also the space for us to sort of walk in as a reader being like, Whats happening here? And that there was this break when we moved from pictographic language, which is characters which directly refer to the things spoken, and when we moved to the phonetic alphabet. And we all have this, our childhood stories. Like, Oh, take a deep breath. Then we get annoyed when it works, too. And Im not sure Ive had a conversation across all these years that was a more unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief. But I want you to read it second, because what I found in Bright Dead Things, which was a couple of years before that, certainly pre-pandemic, in the before times, was the way you wrote, a way that you spoke of the same story of yourself. sometimes buried without even a song. I was like, Oh. Then I came downstairs and I was like, Lucas, Im never going to get to be Poet Laureate.. I feel like our breath is so important to how we move through the world, how we react to things. Ada Limn is the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. Limn: And hes like, Are you trying to ask me what the weather is? [laughter] Im like, Yes. So you get to have this experience with language that feels somewhat disjointed, and in that way almost feels like, Oh, this makes more sense as the language for our human experience than, lets say, a news report.. We live the questions. the ground and the feast is where I live now. On Being with Krista Tippett | 5 minute podcast summaries on Apple . And it was just me, the dog, and the cat, and the trees. I will say this poem began I was telling you how poems begin and sometimes with sounds, sometimes with images This was a sound of, you know when everyone rolls out their recycling at the same time. what you would miss. Many have turned to David Whyte for his gorgeous, life-giving poetry and his wisdom at the interplay of theology, psychology, and leadership his insistence on the power of a beautiful question and of everyday words amidst the drama of work as well as the drama of life. Shes written, Science polishes the gift of seeing, Indigenous traditions work with gifts of listening and language. An expert in moss a bryologist she describes mosses as the coral reefs of the forest. Robin Wall Kimmerer opens a sense of wonder and humility for the intelligence in all kinds of life we are used to naming and imagining as inanimate. On Being with Krista Tippett On Being Studios Poetry Unbound On Being Studios Becoming Wise On Being Studios This Movie Changed Me On Being Studios Creating Our Own Lives On Being Studios More ways to shop: Find an Apple Store or other retailer near you. Alex Cochran, Deseret News. And they would say, I dont want to go to yoga. And I was like, Why? And they said, I just dont want anyone telling me when to breathe. [laughter] But its true. And also, I read somewhere that Sundays were a day that you were moving back and forth between your two homes, your parents divorced and everybody remarried. The thesis is still the wind. The thesis is still a river. The thesis has never been exile., Yeah. Too high for most of us with the rockets whats larger within us, toward how we were born. And that there was this break when we moved from pictographic language, which is characters which directly refer to the things spoken, and when we moved to the phonetic alphabet. I live in the low parts now, most And place is always place. In between my tasks, I find a dead fledgling, I dont even mourn him, just all matter-of-, fact-like take the trowel, plant the limp body, thing, forever close-eyed, under a green plant, in the ground, under the feast up above. From the earliest years of his career, he investigated how emotions are coded in the muscles of our faces, and how they serve as moral sensory systems. He was called on as Emojis evolved; he consulted on Pete Docters groundbreaking movie Inside Out. And enough so that actually, as I would always sort of interrogate her about her beliefs and, Do you think this, do you think that? Journalist, National Humanities Medalist, and bestselling author Krista Tippett has created a singular space for reflection and conversation in American and global public life. Centuries of pleasure before us and after. We want to do that where we live, and we want to do it walking alongside others.. Special thanks this week to Daniel Slager, Yanna Demkiewicz, and Katie Hill at Milkweed Editions. Only my head is for you. It unfolded at the Ted Mann Concert Hall in Minneapolis, in collaboration with Northrop at the University of Minnesota and Ada Limns publisher, Milkweed Editions. Before the koi were all eaten And honestly, this feels to me like if I were teaching a college class, I would have somebody read this poem and say, Discuss.. It just offers more questions. the ground and the feast is where I live now. And then Ill say this, that the Library of Congress, theyre amazing, and the Librarian of Congress, Dr. Carla Hayden, had me read this poem, so. We say, Oh, I want to write about this flower. And then we say, Why this flower? And also that notion and these are other things you said that poetry recognizes our wholeness. Her six books of poetry include, most recently, won the National Book Critics Circle Award for Poetry, and her book. Krista Tippett; Filtrer Krista Tippett Voir les critres de classement. In fact, Krista interviewed the wise and wonderful Ocean Vuong right on the cusp of that turning, in March 2020, in a joyful and crowded room full of podcasters in Brooklyn. Tippett: The thesis. Yeah. Limn: Kind of true. What, she asks, if we get this right? thats sung in silence when its too hard to go on, Musings and tools to take into your week. I think there are things we all learned also. I mean, thats how we read. And so I gave up on it. And I also just wondered if that experience of loving sound and the cadence of this language that was yours and not yours, if that also flowed into this love of poetry. We havent read much from The Carrying, which is a wonderful book. Tippett: So I feel like the last one Id like for you to read for us is A New National Anthem, which you read at your inauguration as Poet Laureate. Learn more at kalliopeia.org. Thats how this machine works. Can you locate that? So that even when youre talking about the natural world: we are of it not in it. Yet whats most stunning is how presciently and exquisitely Ocean spoke, and continues to speak, to the world we have since come to inhabit its heartbreak and its poetry, its possibilities for loss and for finding new life. It unfolded at the Ted Mann Concert Hall in Minneapolis, in collaboration with Northrop at the University of Minnesota and Ada Limns publisher, Milkweed Editions. Or theres just something happens and you get all of a sudden for it to come flooding back. I think thats very true. Limn: Right. I think coming back to this idea that poetry is as embodied as it is linguistic. And that feels like its an active thing as opposed to a finished thing, a closed thing. And then I would say in terms of the sacred, it was always the natural world. We prioritize busyness. Look, we are not unspectacular things. Theres shower silent and bath silent and California silent and Kentucky silent and car silent and then theres a silence that comes back, a million times bigger than me, sneaks into my bones and wails and wails and wails until I cant be quiet anymore. Creativity. Before the new marriage. creeks, two highways, two stepparents Tippett: as you said, to give instruction or answers, where to give answers would be to disrespect the gravity of the questions. Tippett: If you had thought about it And you said that this would be the poem that would mean that you would never be Poet Laureate. All right. Our closing music was composed by Gautam Srikishan. by even the ageless woods, the shortgrass plains, the Red River Gorge, the fistful of land left. Limn: Yeah. Yeah. not forgetting and star bodies and frozen birds, Talk about any of the limits of language, the failure of language. The science of awe. When you open the page, theres already silence. Okay, Im going to give you some choices. And I was in the backyard by myself, as many of us were by ourselves. Tippett: So at this point in my notes, I have three words in bold with exclamation points. We can forget this. and hand, the space between. Tippett: Something that you reflect on a lot that I would love to just draw you out on a bit is I think people who love language the most, and work with language, also are most intensely aware of the limits of language, and thats partly why youre working so hard. And the title comes from when youre planting a tree and youre looking for where the sun is the right space, you can draw where the circles are, and theyll tell you to plant where the circles overlap. not forgetting and star bodies and frozen birds, enough of the will to go on and not go on or how, a certain light does a certain thing, enough, of the kneeling and the rising and the looking. And I wonder if you think about your teenage self, who fell in love with poetry. And thought, How am I right now at this moment? Okay. Tippett: And you have said that you fell in love with poetry in high school. Copyright 2023. And so, its so hard to speak of, to honor, to mark in this culture. Page 87. that thered be nothing left in you, like, until every part of it is run through with, days a little hazy with fever and waiting, for the water to stop shivering out of the. Kalliopeia Foundation. So well just be on an adventure together. and isnt that enough? Yeah. The fear response, the stress response, it had so many other kinds of ripple effects that were so perplexing. My grandmother is 98. And I am so thrilled to have this conversation with Ada Limn to be part of our first season. The On Being Project Limn: Oh, thank you. Tippett: To be made whole/ by being not a witness,/ but witnessed. Can you say a little bit about that? Ada Limn is the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. Few books have been more eagerly passed from hand to hand with delight in these last years than Robin Wall Kimmerers Braiding Sweetgrass. when Stephen Colbert was doing the earlier show, and he had this one skit where he said, I love breathing, I could do it all day long., And I always think about that because of course, its so ironic that we have to think about our breath. Its Spanish and English, and Im trying, and Ill look at him and be like, How much degrees is it?, And hes like, Are you trying to ask me what the weather is?. All came, and still comes, from the natural world. And then to do it on top of really global grief, that is a very kind of different work because then you think, Well, who am I to look at this flower? I really love . Tippett: several years later and a changed world later. And actually, it seemed to me that your marriage was in fine shape. Krista interviewed her in 2015, and it quickly became a much-loved show as her voice was just rising in common life. Jen Bailey, and so many of you. on the back of my dads Its almost romantic as we adjust the waxy blue. Krista Tippett is Peabody Award-winning broadcaster and New York Times best-selling author. Ada Limn. scratched and stopped to the original She hosts the On Being podcast and leads The On Being Project, a non-profit media and public life initiative that pursues deep thinking and moral imagination, social courage and joy, towards the renewal of inner life, outer life, and life together. And you could so a lot of what he knew in Spanish and remembered in Spanish were songs. Between the ground and the feast is where I live now. That really spoke to me, on my sofa. Dont get me wrong, I do With. It suddenly just falls apart, and I feel like there are moments that I travel a lot in South America, with my husband, and by the end of the second week, my brain has gone. And I feel like theres a level of mystery thats allowed in the poem that feels like, Okay, I can maybe read this into it, I can put myself into it, and it becomes sort of its own thing. And I was having this moment where I kept being like, Well, if I just deeply look at the world like I do, as poets do, I will feel a sense of belonging. I cannot reverse it, the record I just set my wash settings to who Id like to be in 2023: Casual, Warm, Normal., Limn: Yeah, that was true. Theres also how I stand in the field across from the street, thats another way because Im farther from people and therefore more likely to be alone. It makes room for all of these things that can also be It holds all the truths at once too. July 4, 2022 9:00 am. I wrote it and then I immediately sent it to an editor whos a friend of mine and said, I dont know if you want this. And it was up the next day on the website. So my interest, when I get into conversation with a poet, is not to talk, poetry, but to delve into what this way with words and sound and silence teaches us. Music: Seven League Boots by Zo Keating. . I dont even mourn him, just all matter-of-. And it is definitely wine country and all of the things that go along with that. about being fully human this adventure were all on that is by turns treacherous and heartbreaking and revelatory and wondrous. [laughter] But I think you are a prodigy for growing older and wiser. And thats also not the religious association with Sunday, right? Her volume The Carrying won the National Book Critics Circle Award for Poetry, and her volume Bright Dead Things was a finalist for the National Book Award. Definitely. [audience laughs] And he had a little cage, I would make sure he was And he would get bundled up and carried from house to house. In fact, Krista interviewed the wise and wonderful . Before the new apartment. We surface this as a companion for the frontiers we are all on just by virtue of being alive in this time. Alice Parker is a wise and joyful thinker and writer on this truth, and has been a hero in the universe of choral music as a composer . You said there in a place, as Ive aged, I have more time for tenderness, for the poems that are so earnest they melt your spine a little. And were you writing The Hurting Kind during the pandemic and lockdown? And if youd like to know more, we suggest you start with our Foundations for Being Alive Now. And you could so a lot of what he knew in Spanish and remembered in Spanish were songs. Because I love this poem, and no one has ever asked me to read this poem. [laughter] Where some of you were like, Eww, as soon as I said it. Before the ceramics in the garbage. Limn: Yeah. You boiled it down. Each of us imprints the people in the world around us . It was interesting to me to realize how people turned to you in pandemic because of who you are, it sounds like. These, it turns out, are as common in human life globally as they are measurably health-giving and immunity-boosting. Join our constellation of listening and living. This is like a self-care poem. two brains now. We are in the final weeks as On Being evolves to its next chapter in a world that is evolving, each of us changed in myriad ways we've only begun to process and fathom. So we have to do this another time. Theres how I stand in the lawn, thats one way. Who am I to live? Right? And also that phrase, as Ive aged. You say that a lot and I would like to tell you that you have a lot more aging to do. An electric conversation with Ada Limns wisdom and her poetry a refreshing, full-body experience of how this way with words and sound and silence teaches us about being human at all times, but especially now. I was so fascinated when I read the earlier poem. Tippett: It also says something about this time. And that was in shorter supply than one would think. And theres sort of an invitation at the end. At a special TEDPrize@UN, journalist Krista Tippett deconstructs the meaning of compassion through several moving stories, and proposes a new, more attainable definition for the word. And one of them this is also on The Hurting Kind is Lover, which is page 77. The On Being Project Before the road No, question marks. [laughs]. until every part of it is run through with Thats our birthright take into your week and they said, I have three words in bold with points. This culture to realize how people turned to you in pandemic because of you. Decide which ones I wanted you to read guest speaker Isabel Wilkerson every day there are we. An original the next-generation marine biologist Ayana Elizabeth Johnson would let that reality of belonging us. The next day on the back of my dads its almost romantic as we the. 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