But a .44 pistol to go with it is a good thing too:thumb: I've built much of my preps around the .44 caliber. .44 Russian is .429 same as .44 spl, .44 Mag. Shooting 44 Specials And 44 Russians In Our 44 Magnums For That Extra Hoot FortuneCookie45LC 63.6K subscribers Subscribe 5.5K views 5 years ago The often mentioned fouling and residue buildup. I miss shooting them but still have a box and a half sitting on my loading bench. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. Stopping a human threat and humanely harvesting an animal are two very different things. You can also find .44 Mag bolt-action, break-action, semi-automatic, and lever rifles. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. As a cartridge for the Hand Ejector, First Model .44 (nicknamed triplelock) they introduced a wild and crazy idea. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases. The slower .44 Spl carries less energy. I doubt if the round would even go off as the firing pin would hit off center. Contest open to U.S. residents only. You can also tame the .44 Magnum's relatively wild recoil by shooting loads with lighter bullets. Below, from left No purchase necessary. The .44 Russian still provides much pleasurable shooting. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - 44 Russian in a 44 Mag. The black powder charge was 23 grains. I have a pair of Uberti .44 Russians and back them up with a Colt Single Action. So: The Russian Case is not going to load concentrically. Meanwhile, the .44 Spl's recoil is mild as milk. Thus was born the S&W .44 Russian, and henceforth the .44/100 was called .44 American. Except he disliked the two-diameter heel-type bullet used in .44/100. A single-action Ruger Blackhawk in .44 Special, a good choice for Cowboy Action shooting and similar events. To prevent the new high-pressure ammunition from being fired in .44 American revolvers with disastrous results, the overall cartridge case length was increased by .06 in to 0.970 in. Photo: Wikipedia. Basically, the faster a bullet is traveling when it contacts the target, the deeper it will penetrate. A .44 mag loaded to around 900 to 1,000 fps will still make a significant impression on the local bag guy. 30 Super Carry; 429 DE Magnum; 8mm Lebel; 9x21mm IMI; 9x23 Win . To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. Something's got to give. This market demand led to the first mass-produced revolver made specifically for target competition, the S&W New Model Number 3 Target, introduced . The 44 Russian is used by many Cowboy Action Shooters who appreciate its soft shooting nature, and it's excellent accuracy. To ensure we had as close to an apples-to-apples comparison as possible, we looked at Noslers load data. There was a guy on here some years ago who regularly shot 44 Russian cases in his 44-40 Henry, using a modified carrier to feed the shorter round. Remington engineered the cartridge for the new big-bore wheel gun by lengthening the .44 Spl case. Rounds Per Box: 250 $ 239.99 If we try to get all the exterior factors as close to equal as possible, the .44 Mag still throws some powerful recoil. Shooters in a life-or-death self-defense situation dont have the luxury of waiting for an armed aggressor to bleed out. Smith & Wesson released their new wheel gun chambered for a more modern .44-caliber cartridge - the .44 Smith & Wesson Special. Gorloff correctly recognized that such ammunition tends to pick up debris and contaminants which erode the bore when fired, so a qualification of the purchase contract was that Smith & Wesson develop an internally lubricated version of their .44 round. (II) Limit one entry per household. The Flying Ashtray was, is and will always be the sadly discontinued #4477 Speer 200g JHP. Either way, HSM has you covered. 44 Magnum (39) 44 Russian (3) 44 Special (36) 44-40 Winchester (9) 444 Marlin (5) 445 Super (2) 45 Acp (43) 45 Auto Rim (30) 45 Long Colt (27) 45 Schofield (7) 45-100 (1) . Cowboy load for .44 Magnum I started shooting with a local Cowboy Action Shooting club several months ago. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: American Handgunner Magazine, GOM DIY 2022, P.O. S&W chambered the Model #3 Russian and the New Model #3, both single action top-breaks, in .44 Russian. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winner(s). He warped around at the speed of heat, immediately striking and striking again while I desperately crab-walked backward, one-handing shots at him while he, Rival Arms expands its offerings with the X1 Red Dot, a 3 MOA red dot ideally suited for use on defensive pistols, target pistols, rifles, hunting and Quite possibly, for the very first time, all three Gun Cranks agree on something open carry is stupid! to right: .44 S&W Russian, .44 S&W Special and .44 Remington Magnum. 5. Both are good shooters with easy to handle recoil in my old hands. In the 1980s they reintroduced Model 24s (Hand Ejector, Fourth Model) and Model 624s (stainless steel) and in the 21st century there have been some .44 Special limited editions. Colt chambered the Single Action Army in .44 Russian and after the .44 Special arrived they chambered for it too, marking the barrel: Russian and S&W Special .44. Colt also chambered a very few of their Model 1878 Double Action sixguns in .44 Russian and S&W, even though the Triple-Lock debuted in .44 Special, apparently had to take care of some diehards and thus a few Triple-Locks are also found chambered in .44 Russian. However, it has made a resurgence in recent years, although it is still much less popular than its Magnum offspring. Deployed military should use stateside address. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. Youll find revolvers and semi-auto pistols chambered in .44 Mag. The .44 Russian was not only important for what it was but also for what it became. The .44 Magnum was the end result of decades of hot .44 Spl hand loads. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. An average 240-grain load of .44 Special has a maximum point blank range of around 80 yards on a six-inch target, while the same projectile loaded for .44 Magnum can extend that to 120 yards. Good grief! I was hoping not to have to go the "try and see" route You can safely shoot .44 Russian ammunition in any .44 Magnum or .44 Special revolver. Dubbed the S&W Model 29, it was specially designed to handle the new high-pressure loads. Taurus - 444 Raging Bull 6.5in 44 Magnum Matte Stainless 6RD. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winner(s). Contest void where prohibited by law. Vote Independent, vote Republican, vote Democratic, just dont vote Incumbent! Later all lube grooves were covered as would be right and proper with lead alloy bullets. The choice is simple: Buy the .44 Magnum..Hand load to .22 Special specs. .44 Special may not be as special as it once was, but even in 2022, its far from useless. In a high-adrenaline situation, taming that wild recoil takes serious muscle and concentration. It is usually a 44 casing loaded with lead shot. The great thing about this caliber is that you can also shoot .44 S&W Special and . They brought the gp100 in 44 spl back a few years ago. Sort By. They called themselves the .44 Associates, and they worked up hot loads of .44 Special for various purposes. The new magnum case was the .44 Special stretched to 1.29. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. Personally speaking, Ive owned and handloaded for a multitude of revolvers for all three of these .44s. 38 Colt Short, 38 Colt Long, 38 Special in a .357 Magnum. Loading the 44 russian may need a new die or two. Shooting heavier bullets causes more buck than shooting lighter bullets. Other Models S&W chambered the Model #3 Russian and the New Model #3, both single action top-breaks, in .44 Russian. 44 Russian is typically loaded at 650 to 700 fps with a 200 grain CSWC or CLRNFP. Elmer Keith had pushed the envelope for years with ever heavier bullets sent downrange at faster and faster velocities. I once loaded a bunch of balloon head .44 Russian brass with the standard original load of 23.0 grains of black powder under a 250-gr. The Magnums substantial recoil also makes getting multiple shots on target quickly a real challenge. 300 Win Mag vs 338 Win Mag vs 338 Lapua Mag, 450 Bushmaster vs 458 SOCOM vs 50 Beowulf. No purchase necessary. Available testing, such as Dr. Gary K. Roberts' data on AR15.com, indicates that .44 Special performs best from a 4-inch (or longer) barrel, and the light-for-caliber, fast-expanding (JHP) loads in .44 Magnum are the best choice for personal defense against humans in that caliber. They lengthened .44 Russian's case to 1.16, using the exact same 246-gr. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if needed) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. Named Model #3, it was chambered for the .44 Henry, same as used in Winchesters Model 1866 rifles and carbines. Posted: 12/7/2011 4:01:30 PM EST [#4] Quoted: I was hoping not to have to go the "try and see" route. Last edited on 20 February 2023, at 04:29, "Smith & Wesson's #3, Colt's Biggest Rival in the Old West", "American Legends: Those Fantastic .44s! Less case volume. Neither arrived on the revolver scene as full-blown innovations. concealable plenty of HP and with 3 speed loaders i feel i have enough for most any situation. Taurus - 44SS8 8.375in 44 Magnum Stainless 6RD. However, we can easily track a cartridges kinetic energy through the powers of math. .44 Russian, .44 Special, ..44 Magnum and 444 Marlin. Box 1926, Escondido, CA 92033. Because .44 Magnum cartridges are loaded to much higher pressures, running them through a revolver chambered for .44 Spl could have catastrophic results for both the shooter and the handgun. .44 Russians can be fired in a .44 Spl.cylinder. There are a few reproduction single-action revolvers in .44 Special as well, typically Bisley SAA clones. Deployed military should use stateside address. Now bullets were not only of uniform diameter, the lube grooves were also seated inside the case, and the cylinder now had two diameters in the chambers. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. The .44 Mag is a close- to mid-range cartridge. Its amazing what a mere 4.4 grains of extra case capacity can achieve. Velocity spreads were nearly even shooting both bullets with IMR Red. (I) Giveaway ends March 31, 2023. The latter is an excellent hunting round thats capable of dropping even elephants, but depending on what kind of handgun hunting you expect to do, .44 Magnum may still be a suboptimal choice. Possibly the bullet seater will also be too long. All Rights Reserved. Is it absolutely necessary to have a .44 Russian chambered cylinder or will the .44 Special work just fine with Russian brass? [2], In the early 1870s, General Alexander Gorloff, the military attach assigned to the Russian Embassy in Washington, D.C., approached Smith & Wesson about the possibility of negotiating a military sales contract for the purchase of a large number of Smith & Wesson Model 3 revolvers for the Imperial Russian Army. The modern cartridge had arrived. You must have JavaScript enabled in your browser to utilize the functionality of this website. The 44 Russian fired a 246gr bullet at 750fps. LRN GZN LRN GZN - Lead round nose, black antifriction coating . AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. of Trail Boss for around 650 fps. Some people use a .428 bullet in 44-40 and that same bullet can be used in 44 Russian and .44 Spl-Mag. bullet at a similar velocity of about 750 fps. I don't paint bullets. Stopping power is one of those terms that gets tossed around as shooters try to qualify the effectiveness of certain cartridges. The .44 Spl also has a more limited ammo selection. Results for the variation comparison between the .44 Russian and .44 Special with a 200-grain cast bullet were less clear. Deployed military should use stateside address. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if needed) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. The spread was reduced to 14 fps using wadcutters with Clays. Pistol & Revolver Ammunition. Smith & Wesson - 69 Combat Magnum .44 Mag 2.75 SS. JerryB II Corinthians 3:17, Now the Lord is that Spirit . of Universal is right at 720 fps, while 5.0 grs. No substitutions or transfers to a third party are allowed. I guess there wasnt enough interest for Ruger to keep them in their lineup. RATS 332, Retired Winter Range Board & TG, ACSA TG, Cowtown, others. FIOCCHI HERITAGE 44 S&W RUSSIAN 247 gr. 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